Showing posts with label Tax Lien Investing. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Tax Lien Investing. Show all posts
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Thursday, August 09, 2007
Tax Lien Investing: How to Profit from Selling Your Tax Lien Certificates
I recently did my first tax lien assignment. I “assigned” or sold one of my tax lien certificates to another investor. This was a tax lien that I thought I was going to lose money on. Why was I worried about losing money on this tax lien? Let’s just say that I purchased this tax lien certificate early in my tax lien investing career and did not do the proper due diligence. I had made three critical mistakes when I purchased this lien and afterward. My first error was in purchasing a tax lien certificate on a property that I did not look at myself. I relied on the word of another tax lien investor, someone who was bidding for a large company and is actually my competition. My second mistake, since this was a vacant lot, was not checking the zoning. The lot turned out to be undersized thus unbuildable. My third mistake was in paying the subsequent taxes for almost 2 years before I checked the zoning.
By the time I had realized my errors, the redemption period was almost over and it was time to foreclose on the property. I did not want to start foreclosure because I didn’t think that there was anything I could do with the property, and did not know if I would be able to sell it. I tried to sell this lien to other investors packaged with a couple of good liens, but no one was interested. So how did I find a buyer for this tax lien and make over 40% on my investment?
When I attend tax sales I like to meet other investors and get to know them, especially the investors that see repeatedly at tax sales and have more experience than I do. I happened to find out that one of the investors who I often saw at these sales used to be a builder and he specialized in undersized lots. He knew how to apply and obtain variances on undersized building lots. I told him about the lien that I was looking to assign. I sent him all of the information about my tax lien certificate with a report of what I had paid in subsequent taxes and what the lien would redeem for. He took a look at the lot and determined that it was a good lot that he could do something with. He paid me the redemption amount of the lien and I assigned my tax lien certificate over to him. I gave him the certificate and signed an assignment contract. Since the tax lien certificate and subsequent taxes paid were at 18% per annum interest, and I had held the lien for more than two years, I received over 40% profit on my investment. I was happy to sell him the lien and get the interest and he was happy to have a tax lien certificate that was ready to foreclose on a property that he thought he would eventually be able to get a variance on and build on.
If you have tax lien certificates that are ready to foreclose, and you don’t want to go through the trouble of foreclosing on them, you may want to consider assigning them to another investor. Tax liens are hot right now; there is a lot of interest in them and it is usually easy to find a buyer for your lien. Not all states allow the assignment of a tax lien from one investor to another, however, so check with the laws in your state first. Assigning your tax lien certificates to another investor is one way that you can reap the rewards of tax lien investing without ever having to foreclose on a lien or own and manage the property. As always, make sure to do your due diligence and you’ll have no problem finding a buyer for your tax lien.
For more information on how to buy profitable tax lien certificates and tax deeds get my Tax Lien Investing Secrets II home study course at www.taxlieninvestingsecrets.com.
By the time I had realized my errors, the redemption period was almost over and it was time to foreclose on the property. I did not want to start foreclosure because I didn’t think that there was anything I could do with the property, and did not know if I would be able to sell it. I tried to sell this lien to other investors packaged with a couple of good liens, but no one was interested. So how did I find a buyer for this tax lien and make over 40% on my investment?
When I attend tax sales I like to meet other investors and get to know them, especially the investors that see repeatedly at tax sales and have more experience than I do. I happened to find out that one of the investors who I often saw at these sales used to be a builder and he specialized in undersized lots. He knew how to apply and obtain variances on undersized building lots. I told him about the lien that I was looking to assign. I sent him all of the information about my tax lien certificate with a report of what I had paid in subsequent taxes and what the lien would redeem for. He took a look at the lot and determined that it was a good lot that he could do something with. He paid me the redemption amount of the lien and I assigned my tax lien certificate over to him. I gave him the certificate and signed an assignment contract. Since the tax lien certificate and subsequent taxes paid were at 18% per annum interest, and I had held the lien for more than two years, I received over 40% profit on my investment. I was happy to sell him the lien and get the interest and he was happy to have a tax lien certificate that was ready to foreclose on a property that he thought he would eventually be able to get a variance on and build on.
If you have tax lien certificates that are ready to foreclose, and you don’t want to go through the trouble of foreclosing on them, you may want to consider assigning them to another investor. Tax liens are hot right now; there is a lot of interest in them and it is usually easy to find a buyer for your lien. Not all states allow the assignment of a tax lien from one investor to another, however, so check with the laws in your state first. Assigning your tax lien certificates to another investor is one way that you can reap the rewards of tax lien investing without ever having to foreclose on a lien or own and manage the property. As always, make sure to do your due diligence and you’ll have no problem finding a buyer for your tax lien.
For more information on how to buy profitable tax lien certificates and tax deeds get my Tax Lien Investing Secrets II home study course at www.taxlieninvestingsecrets.com.
What Happens at a Tax Sale?
What happens at the tax sale depends on what state you attend a sale in, and on whether it is a tax lien sale or a tax deed sale. Tax lien sales can be very different from state to state or even from county to county within a state. Tax deed sales are pretty much the same around the country.
At most tax deed sales the properties are read off by the auctioneer in the order that they are listed and the price of the property is bid up. The exception to this is in counties that have online deed sales, like some counties in California and Florida. In order to bid at an online auction, you have to register online and put up a deposit. The properties are usually listed in batches and a time frame is given for each batch. You put bids in on the properties that you want to bid on, but you don’t know who else is bidding and what the other bids are. You may not even know if you are the successful bidder on a property until after the sale.
Tax lien sales can differ greatly from state to state. In some states the interest rate is bid down. This happens in Florida, Arizona, (two of the most popular tax lien states) Illinois, and in Nassau County, NY. In other states the interest rate is kept constant and the price of the lien is bid up. The amount bid up from the amount due is referred to as “over-bid” or “premium,” and each state handles it a little differently. In some states you receive interest on the premium paid for tax liens (Alabama and Indiana are two state that give you interest on your premium), and in other states you do not (West Virginia is one of these states). Some states do not pay interest on the premium amount and do not return the premium to the investor should the lien redeem (Colorado and Vermont are two of these states). New Jersey is the only state where the interest rate can be bid down to zero and then premium is bid. You don’t receive any interest on the premium paid, but you do receive your premium back if the lien is redeemed within five years.
In some states, something entirely different than the interest rate or the premium is bid. In these states, what is bid down is the percent ownership interest in the property should the lien be foreclosed. The tax lien certificate is awarded to the bidder willing to accept the lowest percent ownership interest in the property. As you can imagine, this makes for some sticky situations should you have to foreclose on a lien and is not the ideal situation for the investor. Tax sales are conducted in this way in Rhode Island, Nebraska, Louisiana, and Iowa.
Some states will use a random selection or round robin process to award tax lien certificates at the tax sale. With the random selection process, the tax collector or auctioneer randomly selects bidders, usually by bidder number for each parcel as it is read out at the sale. With the round robin procedure, the tax collector will go around the room, offering the next parcel on the list to the next bidder in line. The downfall to both of these procedures is that you cannot pick which properties you want to bid on and only do your due diligence on those properties. Here you do not know which properties will be offered to you and you can only accept or decline the ones that are offered to you. The random selection process is used in Wyoming and in Oklahoma. The round robin procedure is used in some counties in Colorado for liens under a certain amount (the amount differs by county).
One tax lien state does something entirely different than any other, and that is the Commonwealth of Kentucky. In Kentucky, nothing is bid, or randomly selected. There is no auction. They accept bids for the amount due plus costs by mail, e-mail, fax, and in person, and the first bid to be received is awarded the tax lien. Although you can mail or fax your bid in, you have to be present at the “sale” to be awarded the tax lien certificate.
If you need help deciding what state to invest in or with getting ready to invest in tax lien certificates or tax deeds, you may want to take advantage of my JetStart Coaching Call. My JetStart call is a one-on-one coaching call with me for only $99.00. I’ll spend one hour with you answering your specific questions about what you need to do to get started. You can find out more about this call and see if it’s something that you’re ready for by filling out the form athttp://www.yourtaxlieninvestingcoach.com/.
Happy and Prosperous Investing,
Joanne
At most tax deed sales the properties are read off by the auctioneer in the order that they are listed and the price of the property is bid up. The exception to this is in counties that have online deed sales, like some counties in California and Florida. In order to bid at an online auction, you have to register online and put up a deposit. The properties are usually listed in batches and a time frame is given for each batch. You put bids in on the properties that you want to bid on, but you don’t know who else is bidding and what the other bids are. You may not even know if you are the successful bidder on a property until after the sale.
Tax lien sales can differ greatly from state to state. In some states the interest rate is bid down. This happens in Florida, Arizona, (two of the most popular tax lien states) Illinois, and in Nassau County, NY. In other states the interest rate is kept constant and the price of the lien is bid up. The amount bid up from the amount due is referred to as “over-bid” or “premium,” and each state handles it a little differently. In some states you receive interest on the premium paid for tax liens (Alabama and Indiana are two state that give you interest on your premium), and in other states you do not (West Virginia is one of these states). Some states do not pay interest on the premium amount and do not return the premium to the investor should the lien redeem (Colorado and Vermont are two of these states). New Jersey is the only state where the interest rate can be bid down to zero and then premium is bid. You don’t receive any interest on the premium paid, but you do receive your premium back if the lien is redeemed within five years.
In some states, something entirely different than the interest rate or the premium is bid. In these states, what is bid down is the percent ownership interest in the property should the lien be foreclosed. The tax lien certificate is awarded to the bidder willing to accept the lowest percent ownership interest in the property. As you can imagine, this makes for some sticky situations should you have to foreclose on a lien and is not the ideal situation for the investor. Tax sales are conducted in this way in Rhode Island, Nebraska, Louisiana, and Iowa.
Some states will use a random selection or round robin process to award tax lien certificates at the tax sale. With the random selection process, the tax collector or auctioneer randomly selects bidders, usually by bidder number for each parcel as it is read out at the sale. With the round robin procedure, the tax collector will go around the room, offering the next parcel on the list to the next bidder in line. The downfall to both of these procedures is that you cannot pick which properties you want to bid on and only do your due diligence on those properties. Here you do not know which properties will be offered to you and you can only accept or decline the ones that are offered to you. The random selection process is used in Wyoming and in Oklahoma. The round robin procedure is used in some counties in Colorado for liens under a certain amount (the amount differs by county).
One tax lien state does something entirely different than any other, and that is the Commonwealth of Kentucky. In Kentucky, nothing is bid, or randomly selected. There is no auction. They accept bids for the amount due plus costs by mail, e-mail, fax, and in person, and the first bid to be received is awarded the tax lien. Although you can mail or fax your bid in, you have to be present at the “sale” to be awarded the tax lien certificate.
If you need help deciding what state to invest in or with getting ready to invest in tax lien certificates or tax deeds, you may want to take advantage of my JetStart Coaching Call. My JetStart call is a one-on-one coaching call with me for only $99.00. I’ll spend one hour with you answering your specific questions about what you need to do to get started. You can find out more about this call and see if it’s something that you’re ready for by filling out the form athttp://www.yourtaxlieninvestingcoach.com/.
Happy and Prosperous Investing,
Joanne
Tuesday, June 19, 2007
How To Get Tax Sale Lists for Free
Once you know when the tax sale is coming up in your area, you need to get the list of properties that are in the sale. I use naco.org to find tax sale property lists online for tax lien and tax deed sales. This only works for counties that have this information online. For counties or states that do not have this information online, you can either call the tax collector and ask how to get the tax sale list or you can buy the tax sale list from a tax sale list provider. To find out which counties have tax sale information and tax sale lists online, you can consult my State Guide.
To go to the county’s web site, first go to naco.org and click on the link to find a county. This will bring you to a page with a map of the United States. Click on the state that you are interested in and you’ll be taken to that state’s web page with a list of all of the counties in the state. Find the county that you are interested in and click on that link. You will be taken to the NACO page for that county. Click on the link to the county on the top of the page and you will go to the county’s web site. Note that this will only work if the county has a web site.
Once you’re on the county’s web site, look for a link to the department or county office that is responsible for conducting the tax sale. For most states, this will be the county treasurer or county tax collector. If you’re not sure who is responsible for the tax sale in your state, then consult my State Guide. Once you get to the web site of the person or department that conducts the tax sale, look for a link to a list of tax sale properties. For larger counties, you can usually find this online. The exception to this is the counties in the Northeastern states. A lot of the Northeastern states do not have county tax sales. Instead the tax sales are conducted by the municipality, so instead of looking for the county web site, in Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, Rode Island, Connecticut, Massachusetts, and New Jersey, look for the municipal tax collectors web site – not county web site. New York has both county and municipal sales in some counties.
If you can’t find the tax sale list that you want online, you can always buy a list from a tax sale list provider. Even if you can find the tax sale list online for free, you still may want to purchase the list from a tax sale list provider. That’s because the list that you get from the tax collector does not always have the information that you need. Frequently it will only have a parcel ID number, owner name, and amount due. What you want to know is what is the address of the property, what is the assessment and value of the property, what type or class property is it, and how big is the property. All of this (and sometimes even more information) is included in the detailed list that you can get from tax sale list providers. I talked about some different tax sale list providers in the last podcast episode, “How to Find Out About Tax Sales.” You can listen to that episode to get the names and urls of tax list providers for different areas of the country. Purchasing a detailed tax sale list from one of these companies will save you a lot of work in doing your due diligence.
To go to the county’s web site, first go to naco.org and click on the link to find a county. This will bring you to a page with a map of the United States. Click on the state that you are interested in and you’ll be taken to that state’s web page with a list of all of the counties in the state. Find the county that you are interested in and click on that link. You will be taken to the NACO page for that county. Click on the link to the county on the top of the page and you will go to the county’s web site. Note that this will only work if the county has a web site.
Once you’re on the county’s web site, look for a link to the department or county office that is responsible for conducting the tax sale. For most states, this will be the county treasurer or county tax collector. If you’re not sure who is responsible for the tax sale in your state, then consult my State Guide. Once you get to the web site of the person or department that conducts the tax sale, look for a link to a list of tax sale properties. For larger counties, you can usually find this online. The exception to this is the counties in the Northeastern states. A lot of the Northeastern states do not have county tax sales. Instead the tax sales are conducted by the municipality, so instead of looking for the county web site, in Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, Rode Island, Connecticut, Massachusetts, and New Jersey, look for the municipal tax collectors web site – not county web site. New York has both county and municipal sales in some counties.
If you can’t find the tax sale list that you want online, you can always buy a list from a tax sale list provider. Even if you can find the tax sale list online for free, you still may want to purchase the list from a tax sale list provider. That’s because the list that you get from the tax collector does not always have the information that you need. Frequently it will only have a parcel ID number, owner name, and amount due. What you want to know is what is the address of the property, what is the assessment and value of the property, what type or class property is it, and how big is the property. All of this (and sometimes even more information) is included in the detailed list that you can get from tax sale list providers. I talked about some different tax sale list providers in the last podcast episode, “How to Find Out About Tax Sales.” You can listen to that episode to get the names and urls of tax list providers for different areas of the country. Purchasing a detailed tax sale list from one of these companies will save you a lot of work in doing your due diligence.
Tuesday, May 29, 2007
How do You Find Out About Tax Sales?
How do you find out about tax sales that are coming up in your state? There are three ways that I know of to find out about tax sales for free or almost for free.You can look in the newspaper, call the tax collector, or go to a web site that sells tax sale lists.
The first way to find out about tax sales coming up in your area is to read the legal notices in the local newspaper. Most counties have to post an announcement about the tax sale, as well as the list of properties that are being offered for sale, in the local paper anywhere from two to four weeks before the sale. This method is not entirely free because you have to buy the paper. You also have to know when the sale is held so that you know when to start looking for it.
A better way to find out when and where the tax sale is held is to call the tax collector, or whoever is responsible for the sale in your state, and ask. Most of the time, this will be the county Treasurer or tax collector, but sometimes tax sales are conducted by the sheriff’s office (particularly in some deed states). One to find out who is responsible for the tax sale is to consult my State Guide. My State Guide is available as an e-book along with another e-book on how to invest in tax liens. Both books are available for $39.95. My state guide is different from the other resources that you can get online, because I don’t just give you the type of investment, interest rate and redemption period for each state. I tell you who is responsible for the tax sales in each state, so that you know who you have to contact, and I tell you whether or not you can get information online and give you a link to that State’s website with links to the counties.
The third way to find out about tax sales is to go to a web site that sells tax sale lists. Sometimes they will provide information about what tax sales are coming up for free. TaxSaleLists.com is a web site that you can register with for free and find out about tax sales throughout the US. For New Jersey and some of the eastern states I use LienSource.com to find out about tax sales. LienSource is the best provider of tax sale information for New Jersey. It’s $49.00 per year for a membership to LienSource but you can get a six month free membership if you mention that you were referred by The Tax Lien Lady. Just call the phone number on the home page of www.liensource.com to find out how to get your 6 months free membership. Bid4Assets.com is a web site that you can go to, to find out about online tax sales. You can check this site periodically to see what online tax sales are coming up. Not all online tax sales are conducted by Bid4Assets. For all Arizona tax sales, I use www.ArizonaTaxLiens.com. Here you can get information on all tax sales for Arizona and order any tax sale lists for counties in Arizona, including lists of leftover liens.
To recap here are the three ways that you can find out about tax sales in your state
Read the legal notices in the local newspaper
Call the tax collector or whoever is responsible for the sale
Go to one of the following web sites to find out about upcoming tax sales:
www.taxsalelists.com
www.liensource.com
www.bid4assets.com
www.ArizonaTaxLiens.com
If you need step-by-step information on how to get started, I have a $7.00 Special Report on the 7 Steps to Building Your Profitable Tax Lien Portfolio that is available at http://yourprofitabletaxlienportfolio.com.
The first way to find out about tax sales coming up in your area is to read the legal notices in the local newspaper. Most counties have to post an announcement about the tax sale, as well as the list of properties that are being offered for sale, in the local paper anywhere from two to four weeks before the sale. This method is not entirely free because you have to buy the paper. You also have to know when the sale is held so that you know when to start looking for it.
A better way to find out when and where the tax sale is held is to call the tax collector, or whoever is responsible for the sale in your state, and ask. Most of the time, this will be the county Treasurer or tax collector, but sometimes tax sales are conducted by the sheriff’s office (particularly in some deed states). One to find out who is responsible for the tax sale is to consult my State Guide. My State Guide is available as an e-book along with another e-book on how to invest in tax liens. Both books are available for $39.95. My state guide is different from the other resources that you can get online, because I don’t just give you the type of investment, interest rate and redemption period for each state. I tell you who is responsible for the tax sales in each state, so that you know who you have to contact, and I tell you whether or not you can get information online and give you a link to that State’s website with links to the counties.
The third way to find out about tax sales is to go to a web site that sells tax sale lists. Sometimes they will provide information about what tax sales are coming up for free. TaxSaleLists.com is a web site that you can register with for free and find out about tax sales throughout the US. For New Jersey and some of the eastern states I use LienSource.com to find out about tax sales. LienSource is the best provider of tax sale information for New Jersey. It’s $49.00 per year for a membership to LienSource but you can get a six month free membership if you mention that you were referred by The Tax Lien Lady. Just call the phone number on the home page of www.liensource.com to find out how to get your 6 months free membership. Bid4Assets.com is a web site that you can go to, to find out about online tax sales. You can check this site periodically to see what online tax sales are coming up. Not all online tax sales are conducted by Bid4Assets. For all Arizona tax sales, I use www.ArizonaTaxLiens.com. Here you can get information on all tax sales for Arizona and order any tax sale lists for counties in Arizona, including lists of leftover liens.
To recap here are the three ways that you can find out about tax sales in your state
Read the legal notices in the local newspaper
Call the tax collector or whoever is responsible for the sale
Go to one of the following web sites to find out about upcoming tax sales:
www.taxsalelists.com
www.liensource.com
www.bid4assets.com
www.ArizonaTaxLiens.com
If you need step-by-step information on how to get started, I have a $7.00 Special Report on the 7 Steps to Building Your Profitable Tax Lien Portfolio that is available at http://yourprofitabletaxlienportfolio.com.
Where is the Best Place to Invest?
Where is the best place to invest in tax lien certificates or tax deeds? Most people are concerned about which lien states have the highest interest rates and which deed states start bidding at back taxes. I believe that the best place to start investing is in your own backyard. I think that it’s best to invest in an area that you know, because you’ll know what the property values are and you’ll know what to look out for. Each state has different problems that you have to be aware of, especially if you’re purchasing raw land.
In Pennsylvania where I invest in tax deeds, for example, I have to worry about whether a property will perk or not. If I buy a lot in a deed sale that doesn’t perk I won’t be able to get a septic design approved and won’t be able to build on the property. Its resale value will be a fraction of the price that I could get for it if it had an approved septic design. In another state you might have other concerns. In dry states, like Arizona for example, you may have to be concerned about water rights.
Don’t be too concerned about which state has the highest interest rate. In states with high interest rates, the interest is typically bid down extremely low. What you should be concerned about is will you have the opportunity to pay the subsequent taxes, and will you get the maximum interest rate on your subs, and are there other penalties that you are entitled to.
In New Jersey, for example the interest rate is typically bid down to 0% and then premium can be bid as well. The reason that investors do this is because they know that once they have the lien, they can pay the subsequent taxes and get the maximum interest rate on their “subs,” which is 18%, and they will also receive a penalty on the certificate amount of the lien.
In Florida where the maximum interest rate is also 18%, the interest is typically bid down to as low as ¼ %. In Florida you are not allowed to pay the subsequent taxes, actually you can pay them, but you do not receive any interest on subsequent taxes, nor will you get any subsequent tax payments back should the lien redeem. However, in Florida there is a minimum penalty of 5%, so if you bid less than 5%, you get the penalty instead of the interest rate that you bid.
Don’t be too concerned about which deed states start bidding at back taxes. The more important thing to be concerned about for deed states is, “what will the competition typically bid the price up to.” In some states, real estate is so valuable and the demand outweighs the supply of affordable homes. In these states (California, Florida, and the Northeast States) any property with a home or business on it will be bid up close to market value. Remember, tax sales are auctions and sometimes people get carried away at actions and pay too much money. Online auctions can be especially competitive, and may California and Florida counties have tax sales online.
To find out about tax sales in your county or municipality go to a sale and see what it’s like. Talk to the tax collector, or whoever is responsible for conducting the tax sale in your area to find out more about how to register for the sale and what the procedures and requirements are for bidding. If you need help determining whom you need to contact, you can consult my State Guide.
My State Guide is available as an e-book along with another e-book on how to invest in tax liens. Both books are available for $39.95. My state guide is different from the other resources that you can get online, because I don’t just give you the type of investment, interest rate and redemption period for each state. I tell you who is responsible for the tax sales in each state, so that you know who you have to contact, and I tell you whether or not you can get information online and give you a link to that State’s website with links to the counties.
What if you live in a deed state and you want to invest in tax liens? I’m in Pennsylvania, which is a deed state, but I’m close to New Jersey, which is a lien state, so I do my tax lien investing there. If you’re not close enough to travel to a state that sell tax liens, is there a state that you vacation in or do business in that sell tax liens? If there is maybe you can right off your next vacation if you go to a tax sale? If not, then you may have no other alternative than to invest online. There are only 2 tax lien states that I’m aware of that have online sales – Arizona and Florida. Arizona sales take place in February and March each year, and Florida lien sales (Florida has both lien and deed sales) are in May and June. Be very careful to do your due diligence on these properties. I don’t advise investing online unless you can go look at the properties or you have someone that can look at them for you.
Here are four action steps that you can take right now to find the best place for you to invest.
Call the tax collector and find out what happens in your state. Do they sell tax
liens, tax deeds, or redeemable tax deeds?
Go to a sale and see what it’s like.
If you are in a deed state and you want to invest in tax liens, then find out what
states sell tax liens, if you need help with this get my State Guide.
Find out about online tax sales at http://www.bid4assets.com.
Bid4Assets has mostly deed auctions, In order to find tax lien auctions online; you will have to go to the county’s web site. For this I recommend going through the links on my State Guide.
If you take the action steps above, then you’ll have a good idea of what state is the best for you to invest in. And if you read my State Guide, you’ll have a good idea of what happens at tax sales in each state. If you need step-by-step information on how to get started, I have a $7.00 Special Report on the 7 Steps to Building Your Profitable Tax Lien Portfolio that is available at http://yourprofitabletaxlienportfolio.com.
In Pennsylvania where I invest in tax deeds, for example, I have to worry about whether a property will perk or not. If I buy a lot in a deed sale that doesn’t perk I won’t be able to get a septic design approved and won’t be able to build on the property. Its resale value will be a fraction of the price that I could get for it if it had an approved septic design. In another state you might have other concerns. In dry states, like Arizona for example, you may have to be concerned about water rights.
Don’t be too concerned about which state has the highest interest rate. In states with high interest rates, the interest is typically bid down extremely low. What you should be concerned about is will you have the opportunity to pay the subsequent taxes, and will you get the maximum interest rate on your subs, and are there other penalties that you are entitled to.
In New Jersey, for example the interest rate is typically bid down to 0% and then premium can be bid as well. The reason that investors do this is because they know that once they have the lien, they can pay the subsequent taxes and get the maximum interest rate on their “subs,” which is 18%, and they will also receive a penalty on the certificate amount of the lien.
In Florida where the maximum interest rate is also 18%, the interest is typically bid down to as low as ¼ %. In Florida you are not allowed to pay the subsequent taxes, actually you can pay them, but you do not receive any interest on subsequent taxes, nor will you get any subsequent tax payments back should the lien redeem. However, in Florida there is a minimum penalty of 5%, so if you bid less than 5%, you get the penalty instead of the interest rate that you bid.
Don’t be too concerned about which deed states start bidding at back taxes. The more important thing to be concerned about for deed states is, “what will the competition typically bid the price up to.” In some states, real estate is so valuable and the demand outweighs the supply of affordable homes. In these states (California, Florida, and the Northeast States) any property with a home or business on it will be bid up close to market value. Remember, tax sales are auctions and sometimes people get carried away at actions and pay too much money. Online auctions can be especially competitive, and may California and Florida counties have tax sales online.
To find out about tax sales in your county or municipality go to a sale and see what it’s like. Talk to the tax collector, or whoever is responsible for conducting the tax sale in your area to find out more about how to register for the sale and what the procedures and requirements are for bidding. If you need help determining whom you need to contact, you can consult my State Guide.
My State Guide is available as an e-book along with another e-book on how to invest in tax liens. Both books are available for $39.95. My state guide is different from the other resources that you can get online, because I don’t just give you the type of investment, interest rate and redemption period for each state. I tell you who is responsible for the tax sales in each state, so that you know who you have to contact, and I tell you whether or not you can get information online and give you a link to that State’s website with links to the counties.
What if you live in a deed state and you want to invest in tax liens? I’m in Pennsylvania, which is a deed state, but I’m close to New Jersey, which is a lien state, so I do my tax lien investing there. If you’re not close enough to travel to a state that sell tax liens, is there a state that you vacation in or do business in that sell tax liens? If there is maybe you can right off your next vacation if you go to a tax sale? If not, then you may have no other alternative than to invest online. There are only 2 tax lien states that I’m aware of that have online sales – Arizona and Florida. Arizona sales take place in February and March each year, and Florida lien sales (Florida has both lien and deed sales) are in May and June. Be very careful to do your due diligence on these properties. I don’t advise investing online unless you can go look at the properties or you have someone that can look at them for you.
Here are four action steps that you can take right now to find the best place for you to invest.
Call the tax collector and find out what happens in your state. Do they sell tax
liens, tax deeds, or redeemable tax deeds?
Go to a sale and see what it’s like.
If you are in a deed state and you want to invest in tax liens, then find out what
states sell tax liens, if you need help with this get my State Guide.
Find out about online tax sales at http://www.bid4assets.com.
Bid4Assets has mostly deed auctions, In order to find tax lien auctions online; you will have to go to the county’s web site. For this I recommend going through the links on my State Guide.
If you take the action steps above, then you’ll have a good idea of what state is the best for you to invest in. And if you read my State Guide, you’ll have a good idea of what happens at tax sales in each state. If you need step-by-step information on how to get started, I have a $7.00 Special Report on the 7 Steps to Building Your Profitable Tax Lien Portfolio that is available at http://yourprofitabletaxlienportfolio.com.
Wednesday, May 02, 2007
Tax Lien Investing: Know What You’re Bidding!
I attended a tax lien sale in New Jersey yesterday. This particular sale is in the township that I used to live in, and I know it well, so I attend this sale every year. Last year I was able to pick up a couple of small sewer liens there for 18%. This year I came away with nothing. Almost everything went at premium, even small sewer liens.
Investors were bidding hundreds of dollars in premium on small sewer liens with no open taxes. They are sure to make very little profit if anything at all on this type of lien when they pay that much premium. So why do they do it? Some of the investors there I knew were bidding for large funds or tax lien investing companies, they paid quite a bit of premium for tax liens that had amounts due of over $1000.00. The largest lien in the sale was for $22,000.00 and went for $205,000.00 to one of these institutional buyers.
But this I understood, I know that these companies figure out just how much they can pay on these larger liens and still make a profit. Once they have the lien, they can pay the current taxes and make 18% on all of the subsequent taxes that they pay, and when the lien is redeemed they will also receive a hefty penalty on the certificate amount (6%). And as another bonus, in certain municipalities, if they more than $10,000.00 in subsequent taxes for the year, at the end of the year another 6% penalty will be added to the subsequent taxes that they paid. So for instance in the case of this particular lien, the annual taxes were around $68,000.00, (this was commercial property assessed at over 2 million). If they held the lien for a year and it redeemed, they would be able to pay in another $68,000.00 and make 24% (the 18% plus the 6% year end penalty) on that. Although they got 0% interest on the certificate amount, they still get a 6% penalty on it, so their total profit would be $17,640.00 on a total investment of $295,000.00, for a yield of 5.98%.
What I didn’t understand is why would someone pay a few hundred dollars for a small sewer lien with no open taxes. Some people see all the money that is bid for larger liens and think that they can apply the same percentages to smaller ones, but it just doesn’t work. A newbie investor paid $1000.00 for a small sewer lien that was a little more than $200. In this case it doesn’t really matter what the annual taxes are, since you will not get a chance to pay them. You may be able to pay the subsequent sewer amounts, but that is probably no more than $500.00 per year. And because the delinquent tax amount is so low (under $1500.00) the penalty that you receive on the certificate amount is only 2% and the interest received on the subsequent sewer payments will only be 8% until the delinquent amount reaches $1500.00. It would take you almost three years to pay enough subs to reach that amount and most sewer liens will pay off within the year. But in this case let’s assume that the lien will be held for one year and then redeem like we did in the example above and see how the investor does.
If the lien redeems in a year the investor will get back their $1000.00 premium – with no interest or penalties along with the redemption amount. Lets say that sewer tax is $500.00 per year and they paid the subsequent taxes for one year. They would receive back the certificate amount with no interest and a 2% penalty, which is only $4.00 and the subsequent sewer amounts that they paid with 8% interest, which is $40.00. So their total profit would be $44.00 and their total investment was $1700.00, giving them a yield of 2.3%. Right now they could get more than that in the bank without doing any work. But most sewer liens redeem in a few months, so it is not likely that an investor will even to that well.
These examples are a little simplified and it doesn’t work out exactly this way. In New Jersey taxes are paid quarterly, so instead of paying the taxes all at once, you pay them 4 times a year. So the actual returns are a little lower than the examples here, simple because you usually don’t get to pay a whole year of subsequent taxes at one time. But the moral of this story is “know what you’re bidding” when you go to a tax sale.
In this case the newbie investor did not know that she wasn’t going to receive any interest on the premium that she was bidding, or on the certificate amount. She really did not know what she was doing, but she kept bidding because other investors were also bidding. Sometimes seasoned investors continue bidding because they want to bid new investors up to the point where it is not profitable for them. Their reasoning is that they think they are getting rid of the new competition. And some investors that are bidding with fund money, or appropriated funds, must use a certain amount of money per year, so sometimes they pay more than they should for liens. Don’t let them bid you up to numbers that don’t make any sense.
Know what your bidding before you bid at a tax sale. It you’ve never been to a tax sale before, you might want to go and observe what happens before you actually bid. After the sale, if there’s something that you don’t understand, ask someone in the tax office. Different states have different bidding procedures. In some states the interest is bid down, and in other states premium is bid for liens. New Jersey is the only state where interest is bid down and premium is bid. So a lien can go quickly from 18% to $1800.00 in premium with no interest.
Investors were bidding hundreds of dollars in premium on small sewer liens with no open taxes. They are sure to make very little profit if anything at all on this type of lien when they pay that much premium. So why do they do it? Some of the investors there I knew were bidding for large funds or tax lien investing companies, they paid quite a bit of premium for tax liens that had amounts due of over $1000.00. The largest lien in the sale was for $22,000.00 and went for $205,000.00 to one of these institutional buyers.
But this I understood, I know that these companies figure out just how much they can pay on these larger liens and still make a profit. Once they have the lien, they can pay the current taxes and make 18% on all of the subsequent taxes that they pay, and when the lien is redeemed they will also receive a hefty penalty on the certificate amount (6%). And as another bonus, in certain municipalities, if they more than $10,000.00 in subsequent taxes for the year, at the end of the year another 6% penalty will be added to the subsequent taxes that they paid. So for instance in the case of this particular lien, the annual taxes were around $68,000.00, (this was commercial property assessed at over 2 million). If they held the lien for a year and it redeemed, they would be able to pay in another $68,000.00 and make 24% (the 18% plus the 6% year end penalty) on that. Although they got 0% interest on the certificate amount, they still get a 6% penalty on it, so their total profit would be $17,640.00 on a total investment of $295,000.00, for a yield of 5.98%.
What I didn’t understand is why would someone pay a few hundred dollars for a small sewer lien with no open taxes. Some people see all the money that is bid for larger liens and think that they can apply the same percentages to smaller ones, but it just doesn’t work. A newbie investor paid $1000.00 for a small sewer lien that was a little more than $200. In this case it doesn’t really matter what the annual taxes are, since you will not get a chance to pay them. You may be able to pay the subsequent sewer amounts, but that is probably no more than $500.00 per year. And because the delinquent tax amount is so low (under $1500.00) the penalty that you receive on the certificate amount is only 2% and the interest received on the subsequent sewer payments will only be 8% until the delinquent amount reaches $1500.00. It would take you almost three years to pay enough subs to reach that amount and most sewer liens will pay off within the year. But in this case let’s assume that the lien will be held for one year and then redeem like we did in the example above and see how the investor does.
If the lien redeems in a year the investor will get back their $1000.00 premium – with no interest or penalties along with the redemption amount. Lets say that sewer tax is $500.00 per year and they paid the subsequent taxes for one year. They would receive back the certificate amount with no interest and a 2% penalty, which is only $4.00 and the subsequent sewer amounts that they paid with 8% interest, which is $40.00. So their total profit would be $44.00 and their total investment was $1700.00, giving them a yield of 2.3%. Right now they could get more than that in the bank without doing any work. But most sewer liens redeem in a few months, so it is not likely that an investor will even to that well.
These examples are a little simplified and it doesn’t work out exactly this way. In New Jersey taxes are paid quarterly, so instead of paying the taxes all at once, you pay them 4 times a year. So the actual returns are a little lower than the examples here, simple because you usually don’t get to pay a whole year of subsequent taxes at one time. But the moral of this story is “know what you’re bidding” when you go to a tax sale.
In this case the newbie investor did not know that she wasn’t going to receive any interest on the premium that she was bidding, or on the certificate amount. She really did not know what she was doing, but she kept bidding because other investors were also bidding. Sometimes seasoned investors continue bidding because they want to bid new investors up to the point where it is not profitable for them. Their reasoning is that they think they are getting rid of the new competition. And some investors that are bidding with fund money, or appropriated funds, must use a certain amount of money per year, so sometimes they pay more than they should for liens. Don’t let them bid you up to numbers that don’t make any sense.
Know what your bidding before you bid at a tax sale. It you’ve never been to a tax sale before, you might want to go and observe what happens before you actually bid. After the sale, if there’s something that you don’t understand, ask someone in the tax office. Different states have different bidding procedures. In some states the interest is bid down, and in other states premium is bid for liens. New Jersey is the only state where interest is bid down and premium is bid. So a lien can go quickly from 18% to $1800.00 in premium with no interest.
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